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Joel Elconin – Pre-Market Recap: VIX Spike, Rate Cuts, and Rotations

Cory
October 17, 2025

 

In this pre-market Daily Editorial, we welcome back Joel Elconin, co-host of the Pre-Market Prep Show and founder of the Stock Trader Network. Joel takes a step back from the recent surge in gold and silver to focus on the broader U.S. equity markets – where rising volatility and falling yields are hinting at a potential shift beneath the surface.

 

Key Discussion Points:

 

  • Rising VIX and market nerves – The VIX has climbed above 20, signaling growing unease even as indexes remain flat. Joel explains why this feels more like a “nervous market” than the start of a full correction.

  • Rates are dropping – good or bad? – With the 10-year Treasury near yearly lows, Joel questions whether falling yields reflect optimism or an early warning of slower growth ahead.

  • Sector rotation themes – Momentum in the Magnificent Seven is fading, while small-caps (IWM) and biotech (XBI) show strength. Joel outlines where money may be rotating and how interest rate sensitivity is driving trades.

  • Earnings season tone – Early results from banks and airlines show mixed signals. Joel highlights how upcoming mega-cap tech earnings will be key to gauging market sentiment and valuations.

  • AI and spending boom – Massive corporate investment in AI continues to prop up GDP numbers, but Joel questions sustainability – suggesting investors look instead at infrastructure and data-center beneficiaries.

  • Opportunities abroad and in lagging sectors – From European ETFs (EFA) to housing and biotech, Joel identifies areas that may offer better entry points as U.S. markets consolidate.

Joel also shares how he’s navigating this environment – why he sees the market as “nervous, not broken,” and what signals would confirm a deeper shift in sentiment.

 

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Discussion
24 Comments
    18 hours ago

    I would be curious to hear any predictions on pullback pricing of gold and silver based on technical/history. Where it may hold, and how long it stays in that pull back range. Much appreciated.

    Regards,

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      BDC
      15 hours ago

      Clutchdog: Turns documented here:
      https://tinyurl.com/bddmb9wj
      General Topping Underway

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      13 hours ago

      The 50 week EMA is a very realistic possibility. I thought silver would make it to $65 before correcting down to the 50 week EMA though.

      Look at the 2006 price action as a conservative and realistic analog IMO.

      I am not trading around this expected correction though. I do plan on selling a huge chunk of my miners on the next top, which I was anticipating would be $100+.

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      13 hours ago

      Also, while much less conservative a prediction, it’s possible that silver will chop around in a high consolidation for 6+months before it touches the rising 50 week EMA. That would give the 50 week EMA time to catch up to price. If this is the way it will play out, I would expect a very quick pull back to the 10 week EMA, which should set the low end of the range for the high consolidation and then very volatile choppy action for 6+ months within that range until the 50 week EMA and the low end of the range converge.

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    BDC
    14 hours ago

    SLV x 1.104 = Spot Silver

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    12 hours ago

    SLV:GLD is pulling back at dual resistance:
    https://schrts.co/AZDfdrZb

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    12 hours ago

    GDX:GLD is interesting and worth watching.
    https://schrts.co/yMMGzjng

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    12 hours ago

    I sold some PSLV today and added to some junior silvers.
    PSLV:IPT.V
    https://schrts.co/ztABZMhZ

    December silver dipped below $50 today in an effort to backtest the highs of 1980 and 2011.

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    12 hours ago

    PSLV:GLD breakout and backtest:
    https://schrts.co/QzkkFnzJ

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    12 hours ago

    SLV:GDX found fork resistance after filling a big gap from early August…
    https://schrts.co/sQrMSfSh

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    12 hours ago

    I believe it’s over for bitcoin.
    https://schrts.co/PHHHkYyW

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    11 hours ago

    SLV has properly filled Wednesday’s gap…
    https://schrts.co/KBZqbkRu

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    10 hours ago

    There’s ample reason for today’s action but I think silver is more likely to accelerate from here rather than correct further or go sideways for weeks or months. Significant tops don’t happen when the gold-silver ratio is over 80; silver is in backwardation; and PSLV trades at 3-4 percent below NAV.
    https://schrts.co/GzbTnKjk

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      8 hours ago

      Definitely good points for optimism. Also, the backwardation really is a unique situation and is still in play.

      Reply
    9 hours ago

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